support skeletal animation?

oleg · March 2018

Someone tried to integrate an animation into Gideros ??

http://blog.dragonbones.com/en/

antix · March 2018

@oleg it all depends on what program you are using. https://github.com/stnguyen/spine-gideros has working code to manage spine but the code is very old.

pie · March 2018

There is something similar for Spriter, but it is old and I suppose no longer working too by user @PanPan
If you're skilled enough, Spriter provides a C# and C++ implementations that I believe could become a gideros plugin.. that's unfortunately out of my league or I would have done it already

https://brashmonkey.com/forum/index.php?/forum/17-spriter-implementations/

Edit. I just noticed that dragonbones is free, which may be a plus vs spriter and spline

oleg · March 2018

@antix dragonbones saves in spine format, have to try

oleg · March 2018

@pie I decided to do on the dragonbones, the developers are adequate there

totebo · March 2018

Bone animation is a long standing feature request of mine, let us know if you get somewhere with Dragonbones!

Apollo14 · March 2018

@totebo old github Gideros-Spine project seems to be working perfectly well in the last release of Gideros:
https://github.com/stnguyen/spine-gideros
@oleg if you will test Dragonbones' export, let us know how is it going

oleg · March 2018

incompatible version of spine2d:
spine-gideros =??? (not support Mesh)
spine-dragon 2.1 or 3.3

@Apollo14

antix · March 2018

@oleg darn, that's a shame.

Skeletal support would be one of the things I would like also. But I'd like a nice native vmath library like Defold has, or some native path-finding library, or a native steering library, and a bunch of other things that are actually useful for creating games.

AFAIK there are only a few people here that can make plugins. I've looked but never found much information. I know there' a french language document somewhere but I think a clearly written, easy to follow along tutorial for Windows and Mac would be great (if it does not already exist)

oleg · March 2018

@antix -

antix said:
@oleg darn, that's a shame.
But I'd like a nice native vmath library like Defold has, or some native path-finding library, or a native steering library, and a bunch of other things that are actually useful for creating games.

for all this there is unity3d,

and from hyderos I have other expectations
it's important for me to get into a niche
for this important file size < 25 mb

Apollo14 · March 2018

oleg said:
@antix -

antix said:
@oleg darn, that's a shame.
But I'd like a nice native vmath library like Defold has, or some native path-finding library, or a native steering library, and a bunch of other things that are actually useful for creating games.
for all this there is unity3d,

and from hyderos I have other expectations
it's important for me to get into a niche
for this important file size < 25 mb

@oleg why are you concerned about <25mb?
As far as I know today good standart is <100mb.

totebo · March 2018

@antix, do what I do and add a specific feature request in GitHub as an issue. At least then it's officially requested, and other members can add dtheir "hear hear" if they feel it's a good feature.

That said, I haven't yet added Spine as a feature request, because I haven't yet researched Spine/Dragonbones to link to the file format etc.

antix · March 2018

@oleg sure but a small library for vector math (vector length, etc) would not increase APK sizes very much at all. If other plugins (steering, pathfinding) were optional then the APK wouldn't get bigger unless you decided to include those plugins.

Anything that makes Gideros run faster is good for us

@totebo I guess so mate but I've been there tried that.. didn't work. Obviously my ideas are stupid

oleg · March 2018

@Apollo14 there is less competition

Apollo14 · March 2018

oleg said:
@Apollo14 there is less competition

@oleg cay you explain what do you mean?
I'm new to mobile development, I should've missed something very basic
how does filesize affect competition?
I thought every user has decent smartphone that can handle 100mb apps without any problems

oleg · March 2018

@Apollo14 саме тому що ти так думаєш, і также як і ти думають розробники юнті, існує ще ніша в ринку ігор в яку я намагаюсь попасти

keszegh · March 2018

@antix, you can approach directly some core developer with an offer if you really need some plugin. e.g. during summer @hgy29 was very helpful and implemented Screen class for additional window and a camera plugin to suit my needs and so i was able to use gideros for a short-term urgent project which otherwise i could not.

also i think the price was very friendly, perfectly meeting what i could offer.

Apollo14 · March 2018

@oleg let's go to new Facebook Instant Games, it's hot!

oleg · March 2018

@Apollo14 facebook is not my target audience of gamers

antix · March 2018

@keszegh Whilst I could pay somebody to make a plugin I would much rather make one myself.

One of the features of Gideros is that is it extensible by creating your own plugins but in all honesty if you think about that statement it is not true if you have not been provided with an easy to follow guide on how to accomplish it.

oleg · March 2018

http://giderosmobile.com/DevCenter/index.php/Gideros_plugins

keszegh · March 2018

@antix, i agree that making plugins is far from easy and far from perfectly documented, yet in the very past i could make an android plugin and later on i could extend the media plugin on github with some additional desktop features, so it is not impossible if you really want (and core developers are helpful if you are stuck).
surely i agree that writing plugins is one department which could be improved.

antix · March 2018

@oleg thanks for the link, had not come across that. Do any of those actually work?

Then looking at one or two of these I remembered.. I would then have to p*ss about with Android Studio to make them work in my apps. Meh, I'll forget plugins now.

SinisterSoft · March 2018

@antix Do you mean you want some basic trig functions to do things like find the length between two points, etc ?

antix · March 2018

@SinisterSoft yep some native maths for manipulating 2d vectors would be pretty good I think.

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