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    Why does a RevMob#load call already display the ad?

    seppseppseppsepp Member
    edited August 2014 in General questions
    Hi @all,

    assumed ad delivery works at all (see http://giderosmobile.com/forum/discussion/comment/38412#Comment_38412 ;) ): Why does a RevMob#load call already display the ad? Isn't RevMob able to preload the ad? If so it would be super cool when this call wouldn't do anything or if the would be a method to check whether the provider supports the preloading mechanism =| .

    Thanks and greetings

    Sebastian
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    • ar2rsawseenar2rsawseen Maintainer
      @seppsepp which ad type behaves that exactly?
      http://appcodingeasy.com/Gideros-Mobile
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Ok, that's becoming weird now! Even when I strip all the code except the following lines, the ad is already displayed (success listener gets called to).
      self.ad = Ads.new(self.providerId)
self.ad:setKey(self.mediaId)
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Ad type is "auto".
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    • ar2rsawseenar2rsawseen Maintainer
      Interesting, from the code I see that
      banner is added to the view hierarhcy when two conditions are true
      1) banner is loaded
      2) show method was called to set the shouldShow bool property to true.

      Are you sure you are not calling ad:showAd somewhere in the code?
      That would also explain the "WARNING: USING ADS WITHOUT STARTING A SESSION COULD PRODUCE UNPREDICTED BEHAVIOUR!"

      in both cases, it seems that ad:showAd is called somewhere (possibly before setKey method is called)
      http://appcodingeasy.com/Gideros-Mobile
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      I wrapped the whole ad stuff so I'm able to enable / disable behaviour very easy at one place.

      I now cleaned up the Ads eventlistener meaning each event got it's own listener.

      The code create two different ads. One for a banner (auto). And one for an interstitial. Thats why the init, enableTesting and load part appears twice.

      This is the player log:
      Uploading finished.
Ad#init
Ad#enableTesting
Ad#load
Ad#init
Ad#enableTesting
Ad#load
Ad#onReceived
Ad#onReceived
Ad#onReceived
Ad#onReceived
Ad#show
Ad#onDisplayed
Ad#onDisplayed
      What I don't understand is why the onReceived event is fired twice per ad =| ^^ . Same for the onDisplayed event.


      This is the Xcode output:
      2014-08-26 11:12:30.669 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Starting RevMobAds
2014-08-26 11:12:30.755 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Testing mode with ads
2014-08-26 11:12:30.757 vamos[4239:60b] Reachability Flag Status: -R -----l- networkStatusForFlags
2014-08-26 11:12:30.758 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] WARNING: SESSION NOT STARTED!! UNEXPECT BEHAVIOUR CAN OCCOUR!!
2014-08-26 11:12:30.759 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Initializating Banner.
2014-08-26 11:12:30.760 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Requesting banner data.
2014-08-26 11:12:30.767 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] WARNING: USING ADS WITHOUT STARTING A SESSION COULD PRODUCE UNPREDICTED BEHAVIOUR!
2014-08-26 11:12:30.767 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Testing mode off
2014-08-26 11:12:30.768 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Parallax effect disabled
2014-08-26 11:12:30.769 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Testing mode with ads
2014-08-26 11:12:30.770 vamos[4239:60b] Reachability Flag Status: -R -----l- networkStatusForFlags
2014-08-26 11:12:30.771 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] WARNING: SESSION NOT STARTED!! UNEXPECT BEHAVIOUR CAN OCCOUR!!
2014-08-26 11:12:30.772 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] Initializing Fullscreen.
2014-08-26 11:12:30.777 vamos[4239:60b] [RevMob] WARNING: USING ADS WITHOUT STARTING A SESSION COULD PRODUCE UNPREDICTED BEHAVIOUR!
      Thanks a lot for your help, @ar2rsawseen!
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    • ar2rsawseenar2rsawseen Maintainer
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      @seppsepp ah I see,
      you need to create only one single revmob instance, it will be able to manage both banner and interstitial.
      Two revmob instances is probably what messing it all up now

      Can you try everything with one single revmob instance?
      http://appcodingeasy.com/Gideros-Mobile
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Woohoo! Ok, having more than one instance of Ads confused everything it seems :D . I changed it to just having one instance ... et voilà it works fine. Thanks a lot for your help!
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Hey @ar2rsawseen, any idea whether calling Ad#load after Ad#setKey instantly causes errors like that ^^ ... the "not yet started session" thing. Because when the app does so, RevMob seems to get confused again - not in the Gideros Player, but in the build app. No ads loaded then. There is no callback for Ad#setKey or something, right?

      Thanks a lot in advance for your help =) !
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    • ar2rsawseenar2rsawseen Maintainer
      Hmm, interesting I really don't know.
      From their docs:
      To start a RevMob session just call the startSession:
      http://sdk.revmobmobileadnetwork.com/ios.html
      No callback no nothing

      And now that you have said I also noticed that warning poping up in Log

      EDIT
      I also noticed that in swift you do provide a callback to setting session:
      RevMobAds.startSessionWithAppID("copy your RevMob Media ID here",
      withSuccessHandler: completionBlock, andFailHandler: errorBlock);

      But in Objective-C no callback provided
      http://appcodingeasy.com/Gideros-Mobile
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      edited September 2014
      Hm. Ok, thanks for the info.

      The reason why I want to preload the ads is, that when I don't the ad is first displayed and then positioned - which results in very short flickering, meaning the ad (banner) is visible for a very short time (one frame maybe?) at the top. Positioning the banner in the received and displayed callback doesn't help =| .
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      To keep you up to date: I've contacted the RevMob support and now I'm waiting for some response.
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Plus: When I call Ads#load a bit later, right now 3 seconds via Timer#delayedCall, then things work fine. Maybe I should stretch time on starting the app a bit ;) . With a looong logo scene or something ;) .

      Btw: What would happen to ads when the app goes to background comes back after a while? Restart of the session and same problems then? Hm ...
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Btw: I haven't tried it before, but I get the same result ^^ for Ads#show when called too early after Ads#setKey.
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    • ar2rsawseenar2rsawseen Maintainer
      @seppsepp
      Yes Ads:show and Ads:load basically does the same, except first also adds the add to the rendering tree

      And yes basically it seems there should be a callback but I did not find it when I was implementing it.

      Going to background and back does nothing, only the cold start seems to be reseting session :)
      http://appcodingeasy.com/Gideros-Mobile
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    • seppseppseppsepp Member
      Finally ... the app now has a startup screen with a nice jingle which lasts for about eight seconds. The interval seems to be long enough to get the ads preloaded. *sigh*
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