Google Play - "Your device isn't compatible with this version"

BJG · January 2013

At the moment my only Android device is a Dell Inspiron laptop (Atom processor, 1366x720 screen) running Android-x86 (image "android-x86-4.0-RC2-tegav2"). In general, I've been surprised how well this works and it seems to handle most of the games I've tried downloading from the Google Play store. I've been able to install the Gideros Player and run all the examples as well as deploy them via Eclipse. However, I've just been trying to download some of the made-with-Gideros games mentioned on the forum, and they all come up with the warning: "Your device isn't compatible with this version" and won't install. Any thoughts on why this is...? I'm not sure how Google Play decides whether an app is compatible with your device or not.

thanhquan1512 · January 2013

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Edit: sorry it's my fault. After checking I found that you're running Android version 4.

ar2rsawseen · January 2013

@BJG thats really interesting, could you specify some games that you are not able to run?

BJG · January 2013

The ones I've tried which give this message include Bacteria, Mobile Dungeons, Magic Stone, Arkamania, Leyanda, Math Boxing, Save My Toys...can't find one that works.

By contrast, I've being playing games like Angry Birds, Beyond Ynth and others with no problems. Some games won't run (eg Bad Piggies) but they still install...very few show this error which prevents installation in the Google Play store. I'm not sure if it's the resolution, or the CPU, or what. (I'm no Android expert, and haven't been able to change the resolution to experiment.)

Scouser · January 2013

@BJG: Gideros doesn't currently support x86 (or Mips) on Android. Support for x86 and Mips has been discussed in this thread. This may change when (or if) the devices become more widely available.

BJG · January 2013

Thanks Scouser - so, just so I understand, if I tried to install these games from an APK, it would fail...? And why is it that I can run the Gideros demos as an APK, but not these games...? Is it that they use certain functions or something...? And how does Google Play identify that...?

fxone · January 2013

@BJG I assume that you have rooted device. So if developers of mentioned games applied Google Copy Protection system at sending apk to Google Play, you may encounter such problems, because Google does not allow to install protected apps on rooted devices. If you can install my unprotected game (link at signature), then it will be an answer.

BJG · January 2013

Same thing...whereas I randomly try, eg Deluxe Pool and it's fine. I'm not suggesting this is some big problem, just curious.

SinisterSoft · January 2013

I haven't turned on copyprotection for Bacteria... at least I don't think I did - I never ticked it and as far as I know it's been depreciated - so I don't think it's that.

It must be something to do with the manifest?

OZApps · January 2013

one thing that will definitely do is boost the size of your .APK with about 3-4 MB (minimum)

hgvyas123 · January 2013

i totally agree with @fxone also in addition to that the disadvantage of copy protection is that it is not allowing to move app in the sdcard doesn't matter what we have set in manifest

atilim · January 2013

@BJG @Scouser If you have a x86 CPU and you're able to run Gideros Player then you may have an ARM to x86 binary translator called Houdini: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13005303/how-does-native-android-code-written-for-arm-run-on-x86

Currently, I'm suspecting from GPS permission set in AndroidManifest.xml. I think it's time to put some options to Android export dialog to enable/disable GPS, internet access, etc. etc.

btw, is copy protection same with google licensing?

fxone · January 2013

@Atilim I suppose that copy protection system is kind of DRM, but it is different thing than licensing, and btw "When you upload a license for your application in the developer console, you should to disable copy-protection for that app. ".. More details: http://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=186113

atilim · January 2013

@fxone thank you. let me read this.

SinisterSoft · January 2013

@atilim: In order to have inapp adverts you need some kind of location detection enabled (I don't request GPS in bacteria, but I do request wifi/general location) - but I think it's a request, if it's not there then it should work. I have a spare phone with no gps and it runs bacteria no problem.

Maybe his setup has something enabled (that we have disabled) that when HE compiles it makes it enables the arm emulation? If so, maybe someone should send him a apk of the player - if it doesn't work then maybe that might be it?

Re protection: The copyright protection system is a 'bit' that gets set when you download fom google play that says the file cannot be copied from main memory to sd card. If you root then you can bypass this flag which almost every pirate has done. It has been discontinued. Now google have a system called lvl which checks licences randomly if the internet can be reached, it's much better. It only works for apps bought from the appstore however. You have to do a different apk for other appstores.

The way forward maybe a better GiderOS export system - where you can export to multiple destinations at the same time. So you can then just go to eclipse and do the tinkering to 5 or 6 different projects (one for each appstore). Or better still GiderOS produce the apks?

atilim · January 2013

@SinisterSoft It makes really sense. btw, Gideros Player can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/684866/GiderosAndroidPlayer.apk

atilim · January 2013

@SinisterSoft and about exporting, first I want to provide a command line tool to automatize the exporting process. And then I'll try to improve the export dialog.

SinisterSoft · January 2013

@atilim: thanks.

btw: If anyone has a tutorial (or know how) on how to add lvl to a gideros project through to apk generation please can you post it on this forum. I've read and re-read how to do it and can't get it to work - I must be missing something somewhere (it's supposed to be simple !!!! Grrr!!!!

) but I just don't know what.

SinisterSoft · January 2013

@atilim: That would be great, would the command line just be a replacement for eclipse's 'android tools > export signed apk' ?

atilim · January 2013

@SinisterSoft I guess after providing exporting from command line, this can be achieved as:
1. export from command line
2. create build.xml with "android update project"
3. call ant

Scouser · January 2013

@atilim: If you are going to change the export, could you please look at implementing these suggestions [-O< It really would help Android developers.

atilim · January 2013

@Scouser - these suggestions are on my mind. Currently AndroidManifest.xml is static. When I make it configurable, I'll definitely implement these suggestions.

hgvyas123 · January 2013

so can you make it with by default preferExternal mode as a static one because sometimes we forgot to add this line in manifest

BJG · January 2013

The player I'm using is the one included in the Gidero Studio download. I suspect the problem isn't running the apps, but just that Google Play won't let me install them. (I've read about "sideloading" as a possible solution to this error in general.)

I just came across this thread...

http://www.giderosmobile.com/forum/discussion/1140

...and tried "Filin Banyosu"...that works fine.

fxone · January 2013

@BJG I agree: It's all about filtering out at Google Play side only. Look at table 3 at 'Native Platform' row: http://developer.android.com/google/play/filters.html
It looks that Angry Birds and other games have implemented native libraries for x86, thus you can install them directly from Google Play...

atilim · January 2013

And "Filin Banyosu" only contains ARM binaries and not x86.

BJG · January 2013

(...and "Give me numbers!" from that thread also works, same as hgvyas123.)

fxone · January 2013

@Atilim I sent my comment before @BJG has just edited his answer about "Filin Banyosu".. so now I have no more ideas :-?
[EDIT:] One more: We must investigate Gideros SDK's version of those games, which can be downloaded on x86 machine. I suppose that are older versions..

BJG · January 2013

(I don't want to send you all on some wild goose chase...it's probably just some quirk of the Android-x86 build I'm using on this laptop. I was just curious to know how Google Play decides which apps are compatible and which aren't, and figure out if I could find a way to get these working...but it sounds complicated!)

ar2rsawseen · January 2013

When you try to upload an app to https://publisher.appsurfer.com/
It also says that there must be a x86 support. So it may be used as a test for apps to see which support one.

Unfortunately Mashballs can't be uploaded there

fxone · January 2013

@BJG Don't bother about goose chasing! x86 machines It's quite important volume on the market.. why do not chase that cake?! I have theory that Google implemented new filtering policies only for new apk uploads not for older apps from for example 2011.. that's it would be useful to know list of games (made with Gideros) which you can download on your x86 machine

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