"Refresh or not refresh"? Run Checkers - First month's Admob Report

fxone

Hi Guys!
At my first experience with game developing and monetization issue, I supposed that the game, Street Pool was specific and that's why CTR and eCPM are so high and above market's average. See: http://www.giderosmobile.com/forum/discussion/1140/street-pool-new-game-made-with-gideros-studio#Item_36
After first month of my second game, Run Checkers on the market I got similiar to Street Pool's result from Admob, of course still: no refreshing of ads...what means displaying one ad per one game:

I assume that this info might be helpful for beginners, because I remember that at the beginning I had big dilemma: refresh or not refresh... #:-S

unlying

I can share some info too.
I'm not hiding ads. It shows on every screen and every time here.
This is from 4 Resim 1 Kelime:

fxone

@unlying very nice, but definitely I need more downloads... should I try to make some puzzle/rebus game in my native language (Polish)? :-?

thanhquan1512

@unlying: can I ask where do you live? My game make nearly the same impressions as you but my eCPM just 0.88 and my earning is just 1/2 of yours.

The CTR is very low average 35 clicks per 1800 impressions

Btw, what does this mean: "This is from 4 Resim 1 Kelime:"?

unlying

@fxone I have Polish version of this game(4 pics 1 Word). It earns lower then 1$. So i doubt in Polish market... I spent 100$ on both game. Turkish version returns it for a month. Polish... will never returns it...

@thanhquan1512 I'm from Russia. This game on Turkish. It has high eCPM because i have many downloads from Germany, but not from Turkey.
"This is from 4 Resim 1 Kelime" means it is earnings from 1 game named "4 Resim 1 Kelime"
http://www.giderosmobile.com/forum/discussion/2963/4-resim-1-kelime-turkish-version-of-4-pics-1-foto#Item_8

hgvyas123

@thanhquan1512 :- my ecpm is even half of yours just 0.44 not sure about ctr but i think it is around 1% so almost 10 clicks per 1000 impression although my refresh rate is just 45 or 30 seconds

fxone

@unlying thx
@thanhquan1512 If I may:
1. show ads as me and @unlying on every screen or at least at game screen; because your game Monster Mine is not difficult arcade, there is no a lot of occasions to see an ad, only when you pause the game... I suggest to put buttons/time/records on the left and right side and on the bottom put permanently an ad (one ad, no refresh option).
2. I do not see your app on slideme.org store; please consider to publish there, because they have a lot of US users (3rd Android's market in USA as I good remember), then you simply lift up the eCPM and CTR.. and at this occasion you may experiment with point 1 (above)

thanhquan1512

@fxone: Great, thank you for your suggestion, I will try it

fxone

@thanhquan1512 btw what is your default language under Google Play Developer Console? I suggest also English (US)... not native

unlying

I don't think that SlideMe is a way to success and money.
For example this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.debia.guesspicture
Has more than 50 000 downloads and 500+ reviews. Mostly positive.
And this app on SlideMe:
http://slideme.org/application/guess-picture-0
500 downloads and 1 negative review.

fxone

@unlying and mostly your customers at Google Play are from..? US?
look at this one:
http://slideme.org/application/mashballs
and then:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jenots.mashballs
It's not such bad place for publishing...

unlying

May be it was featured?
No, my downloads not from USA. But my application that has 5000 downloads from SlideMe doesn't has it from USA too. Why do you think that SlideMe is popular in USA?

thanhquan1512

@fxone: Yes my default language is English(US)
@unlying: Congratz, more than 50k download in less than a month. Did you spend any money for marketing it?

unlying

@thanhquan1512 No, i don't spend any money on marketing.
50k isn't great result.
For this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.debia.rebusisto i have 400k downloads for a month.
For this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.debia.sostavslova - 300k downloads for a month.

fxone

@unlying ok look at also my poor example of "Run Checkers" :
Slide Me:
http://slideme.org/application/run-checkers
Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runcheckers
10x more from SlideMe than from Google Play.
About USA I found some info from here:
http://slideme.org/developers
And this opinion is also confirmed in my experience from Admob: almost 25% of impressions is from US, and there is missing ca 30% of potential users from USA (besides estimations from Google Play, Amazon, Samsung, Getjar). Some store gave me those US customers and for 90% it must be SlideMe.org Of course it's only theory, because SlideMe has not any country/region statistics..
Anyway @unlying please let @thanhquan1512 check this out
and of course you are in the TOP3 in download category in Gideros community for sure, no doubts, and your experience is very precious, a lot more than mine

fxone

@unlying and when you say:

I spent 100$ on both game.

do you mean that you spent money on templates, engines, dictionaries, pictures, all that 'asset' stuff? Where do you shop?

unlying

@fxone I don't know Turkish and Polish. So i pay people who knows it for content for these games. Pics and words.