The future of Gideros editor and player

gianmichele

I think nowadays workflow is really what will set you apart from the competition. To me the simple fact that I can have Gideros player run on my device and test things on the fly makes all the difference. But what would be the next step?

I've looked around on the internet and found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PlI-gPu3SPI (shorter version)

(the whole talk)

What do you guys think?

-Gian

gorkem

Aaaaaah don't show this or Atilim will implement this next time

bowerandy

Aha, we did talk about this once before in a thread that I started back in March. Increasing the Awesome. I'm afraid @atilim has already seen it :-).

Best regards

evs

Bret Victor may talk the talk, but the Gideros team walk the walk


cheers

evs

Teranth

Well it looks very cool, but in actual practice it might be more complex then it's worth. Most designers I know don't do much of the coding portion lol

OZApps

I cannot recollect from the top of my head, there is one trial app that allows for this live coding. The overhead on this kind of an app is going to be immense, however I like the idea of being able to adjust the trajectories, bounce, etc while designing the app. That would be cool, but the first problem at hand would be when the app crashes, so first we need to fix that or encase every command within an exception block when run

atilim

To tell the truth, from the first day @bowerandy posted this video, I'm constantly thinking about implementing this. At least providing an interactive console helps the designer/programmer a lot.

OZApps

The Open Source (if any one is interested) game that has a level editor that was modelled on the above video can be found at and it's called Frogatto

techdojo

I did something similar to this (although without the time based stuff and the undo functionality) back in '97 on a PC arcade game I worked on. It was supposed to be a stopgap whilst the guy actually writing the level editor got his s*** together, however he didn't and it ended up being the way we created all the levels.

I basically had a pause button which when pressed put the game into "edit" mode so that all the objects, trigger points etc could be selected and edited and then when done you just unpaused the game and continued playing.

It was actually quite fun to work with and actually made editing the game levels and tweaking the gameplay a breeze.