Gideros Momentum

zakkwylde666 · August 2012

Hi Guys,

I appreciate the effort that you have put in Gideros to where it is, but it seems like the momentum is dropping off a little. Render to texture, shaders and access to the sprite data from plugins I think are priority items that will allow the developers to expand the offerings of Gideros to the community.

I am just trying to be honest that Gideros has a great future, but adding a few more major features quickly I think will expand your user base even further and the community will thrive. Just look at GregBug for example, give him more 'control' and I know he will produce magical stuff for his projects and the community.

Please don't take this negatively. Gideros is a great tool, but it just needs that little bit more....

phongtt · August 2012

Same thought here.
I'm curious to see the roadmap cleaned and updated, and hope to see your clear vision for the next steps

@atilim? @gorkem?

gorkem · August 2012

You are right. Summer time has prevented us to work on the project intensively. We've started working on the project full time again. Now time to have a look at the bugs list.

Thanks for heads up

zakkwylde · August 2012

Like I said, I do not want to be negative. But I believe that if you can up the functionality a bit to give ore advanced options. The people in the community will respond and produce quality games and applications and they can answer with pride.
"what did you develop your game in?" "Gideros" they will say.

Cheers

glennbjr · August 2012

All kinds of bells and whistles are nice but at the end of the day I prefer performance and stability. I'm sure Gideros will grow and offer more features as time goes on but I'm in no rush for texture and shader access. Just my two cents.

>-

@Gregbug ^:)^

techdojo · August 2012

Actually I'm in the middle here, I don't think we need ALL the bells and whistles just yet (although render to texture would be nice), however @glennbjr is right - performance and stability have to be the key concerns.

Just my $0.02

Mells · August 2012

Can we get an update on the roadmap status? Like @phongtt asked, but with a short resume ("What will be actually available in the next update, What we had to delay..", etc). That would be great.

gorkem · August 2012

Atilim is working on the bugs list now. Next release will include the following:

- iAds
- Separation of IDE and Player (which took a long time - almost completed)
- Alert dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- Text input dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- LuaFilesystem plugin (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- LPeg plugin (iOS, Android, Desktop)

All but separation of IDE&Player is completed. We are expecting for a release this week.

jack0088 · August 2012

this are good news;)

Mells · August 2012

@gorkem
I can't say that I'm not impatiently expecting Render to texture or Getting and setting a pixel, but the list you gave us is great, thank you

ruxpin · August 2012

Very nice! Been waiting on a few of these features to be made available. I hope it is tonight or tomorrow!

The only one I don't understand is LPeg. Can anyone explain what this is or what it is used for. Wikipedia and the lua site are way above my head on this.

MikeHart · August 2012

@gorkem, please don't release this without having it well documented. By seperating the IDE from the player, I take it that you can then call the player easily from other dev environments? If yes, will you continue to work on the IDE? All I miss there is a proper function list so I can navigate in it well.

gorkem · August 2012

By separating the IDE and SDK, you'll also be able to use any IDE you like on any platforms. This doesnt mean that we wont continue to work on IDE - it's the natural consequence of people asking for willing to use an IDE they are used to.

alexzheng · August 2012

I vote for the gideros studio IDE,although it lacks a lots of features,it's very lightware and fast.

techdojo · August 2012

I enjoy the IDE as well - I actually use it for Beer SDK dev on my Mac

Nascode · August 2012

Gideros IDE has built-in function to handle lua script dependency for Gideros. Not sure if we are using other IDE, should we edit project xml file manually?

Teranth · August 2012

I too am fond of the Gideros IDE itself, it's light and fast and tends to work well for what it does without all the clunky features larger IDE's tend to include. At the end of the day I just want to write code and test code as fast as possible and I think it helps to that end.

gorkem · August 2012

@nascode If you use another IDE, then you need to handle these. However it's perfectly possible to use Gideros IDE first to produce skeleton files, and then use IDE of your choice to edit your files.

gorkem · August 2012

By the way, there wont be any visible changes to the end user after separation of IDE & SDK. Everything will work like before. There'll be two more binaries you can use to integrate player & SDK with your preferred IDE.

Details soon

ar2rsawseen · August 2012

Just an observation, no pointing fingers here.
So far by browsing the forum, most requested features are (in no particular order):

Render to texture
Async texture loading
Getting and setting pixel
Anti-alising (for fonts, shapes)
Support for desktop platforms

I know anyone could add to this list. I'm myself could make it pretty long.

But well by somewhat un-oficial (mine) statistic. This is what members request the most.

alexzheng · August 2012

Native Particle Engine with easy editor

Nascode · August 2012

Feature request time?

Polygon shape with ability to change UV texture value for each point. So creating trails is easier.

techdojo · August 2012

@alexzheng - that's why god invented plugin's!

I must go back and check - but if memory serves I think Gideros has it's own OpenGL canvas / context / surface, I know the UIKit plugin creates it's own view so all the controls appear on top of the Gideros surface, maybe a new OpenGL context could be used to layer a native particle system on top.

Actually the other thing that would be really nice would be to have an optional draw hook so we could potentially do custom rendering using direct calls rather than the retained mode.

ar2rsawseen · August 2012

Native Particle Engine with easy editor

Feature request time?

Polygon shape with ability to change UV texture value for each point. So creating trails is easier.

OMG, what have I done

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atilim · August 2012

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chipster123 · August 2012

ndoss and I have been waiting quietly for
- Alert dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- Text input dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)

MikeHart · August 2012

I am waiting for a function list inside the IDE to navigate, proper Android plugin examples/doc and desktop app creation. If that comes, then I don't need to switch back and forth with Monkey.

pykaso · August 2012

I silently praying for oportunity to use TextureRegion as Texture.

MikeHart · August 2012

Ok, just noticed that a lot of things I was waiting for are now moved into the unplanned section of the roadmap. I don't get it. :-? Guess I don't need to wait anymore :-/

ar2rsawseen · August 2012

@MikeHart

nice one

OZApps · August 2012

Atilim is working on the bugs list now. Next release will include the following:

- iAds
- Separation of IDE and Player (which took a long time - almost completed)
- Alert dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- Text input dialog (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- LuaFilesystem plugin (iOS, Android, Desktop)
- LPeg plugin (iOS, Android, Desktop)

All but separation of IDE&Player is completed. We are expecting for a release this week.

is the new version released? Next week from 7th August would have been about 14th. Waiting impatiently for the Text Input and the Alert Dialog boxes.

I know there will be a post from @Scouser or @Techdojo who woul dbe refreshing the browser to check a new release..

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